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Demon 170, will any be 100k, probably not

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Kinda reminds me of the Pontiac Tempest GTO option
 


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The paperwork - not that it matters in the long run - is kind of wonky on the 170.
An '18 demon is a "Demon"
A 170 is a sub option under the Redeye option.
I'd say that makes anything other than a cash deal somewhat difficult.
So true, so very true...

Money talks, bullsh!t walks.
 


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This is gonna be very blunt and to the point.

Sunroof = 10k extra plus less desirable, hence no roof cars going for more money. Less desirable cause racecar but they are sitting in collectors garages.... oh the irony.

They couldn't care less about your cash deal, financing is always king for dealers, they make nothing out of a cash deal and everything out of bonuses and kickbacks from lenders.

They're still charging adm cause they know they can get it, we are reaching close to the dip here, my prediction has always been these cars won't go below 10-20k over sticker unless it's an undesirable color/options list.

Still a ton of buyers at 15-25k over
Very interesting. If they wish to play games, I wish them luck.

I will continue to look around for a 170, but if I don't find one, my '22 Challenger RedEye, will be work for us.
 


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This is gonna be very blunt and to the point.

Sunroof = 10k extra plus less desirable, hence no roof cars going for more money. Less desirable cause racecar but they are sitting in collectors garages.... oh the irony.

They couldn't care less about your cash deal, financing is always king for dealers, they make nothing out of a cash deal and everything out of bonuses and kickbacks from lenders.

They're still charging adm cause they know they can get it, we are reaching close to the dip here, my prediction has always been these cars won't go below 10-20k over sticker unless it's an undesirable color/options list.

Still a ton of buyers at 15-25k over
Many dealers have noted lost sales due to finance problems on the 170. Now, pricing is getting better, but some dealers continue to play the game.
 


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Very interesting. If they wish to play games, I wish them luck.

I will continue to look around for a 170, but if I don't find one, my '22 Challenger RedEye, will be work for us.
Yup, I'm in the same boat.

If I find a d170 I'll sell my charger redeye, if not I'll keep it for a bit longer.
 


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Many dealers have noted lost sales due to finance problems on the 170. Now, pricing is getting better, but some dealers continue to play the game.
Oh yeah, dealers are definitely a little behind.

Trying to sell for 100k over when the market was 75, then 75 when 50, then 50 when 35, etc etc.

But if you find the right dealer there is a deal to be had if they are aggressive enough.
 


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Still quite a few 170’s out there from 45k markup to 100k they can keep them.
 


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Cheapest I see is 250K
They are selling
Anything over 275 seems to be sitting

This dealer has been into the peace pipe 1 too many times




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Oh yeah, dealers are definitely a little behind.

Trying to sell for 100k over when the market was 75, then 75 when 50, then 50 when 35, etc etc.

But if you find the right dealer there is a deal to be had if they are aggressive enough.
Purposely dragging their feet in hopes someone will bite.

I do think dealers are getting desperate to move these cars though. Better to take that 10-20k over than pay more interest on it.
 


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Purposely dragging their feet in hopes someone will bite.

I do think dealers are getting desperate to move these cars though. Better to take that 10-20k over than pay more interest on it.
They are getting there, nail on the head.
 


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They are getting there, nail on the head.
Im still bitter from last March with all the bullshit that happened.
I have been watching but I have next to no interest in buying anything.
If I see one at MSRP, i might jump.

But I think the collectors already have theirs.
Its now between those who are holding out or need financing vs the dealers who still have visions of a quarter million sale that isn't going to ever happen again short of a world wide pandemic/shut down.
 


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Im still bitter from last March with all the bullshit that happened.
I have been watching but I have next to no interest in buying anything.
If I see one at MSRP, i might jump.

But I think the collectors already have theirs.
Its now between those who are holding out or need financing vs the dealers who still have visions of a quarter million sale that isn't going to ever happen again short of a world wide pandemic/shut down.
There will always be people that will ruin a good thing. A lot of people ruined this
 


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Tim who bought BuddyG's "snow Demon" just picked up a 170.

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Jailbreak, at 1st I thought this was Ron's color (1;1) but it's not ...

Some rock star, I didn't know who he was (until now)

 


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Jailbreak, at 1st I thought this was Ron's color (1;1) but it's not ...

Some rock star, I didn't know who he was (until now)

He was on the forum for the longest time when he ordered his 2018 Demon
He is a big Dodge guy
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I see (~900hp?) tt zr1 is supposed to be coming out this summer. I wonder if it would have any effect on 170 prices? I'd like to see them eventually come down to a realistic (for me) level while there are still new ones left on lots. Wishful thinking i know.
 




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