Congratulations to Ron Silva Demon 170 into the 8's

[AlleyCat]

I think some energy going up vs. forward cost .1 to .2 seconds off a faster time. The car has more in it without any more mods. Well maybe a suspension adjustment?

 

[Demon Dan]

I think some energy going up vs. forward cost .1 to .2 seconds off a faster time. The car has more in it without any more mods. Well maybe a suspension adjustment?

Interesting fact: Ron's best 60 foots were with the big wheelies.

 

[Marc W]

I’ve had wheelies that took time away and others that didn’t. Some feel like they’re acceleration created and don’t get too high (good ones) and other times it feels like it’s too much sudden weight transfer and the car levers it’s way up. Those aren’t good. Hard to explain. What I suggest for Ron is once he’s got it broken in and running at its potential, he should put it back to how it was delivered and show everybody what the difference is between the showroom stock and lightweight category. The time to do that will be at max prep and negative DA. Possibly Dallas next month.

 

[Jack_Toepfer]

Hanging the wheels a little while still staying WOT means you’re not leaving anything on the table in this car. You don’t have any adjustments that can be made to the front or rear shocks that would allow you to turn that wheelie into more acceleration.
If you’re WOT and not doing a wheelie, you need to leave with more power until you do.
If you wheelie and have to pedal, you need to dial it back.
Race cars have advanced suspension and chassis adjustments to help with wheelies while keeping the power in it that simply aren’t available here.
Trip the 60’ beams with the back tire and you’re a winner.

 

[Demon Dan]

Hanging the wheels a little while still staying WOT means you’re not leaving anything on the table in this car. You don’t have any adjustments that can be made to the front or rear shocks that would allow you to turn that wheelie into more acceleration.
If you’re WOT and not doing a wheelie, you need to leave with more power until you do.
If you wheelie and have to pedal, you need to dial it back.
Race cars have advanced suspension and chassis adjustments to help with wheelies while keeping the power in it that simply aren’t available here.
Trip the 60’ beams with the back tire and you’re a winner.

Ron's car carries the wheels just about to the 60' beams. It's also shifted to 2nd in the air.

 

[Bowtie Guy]

You know when your having a discussion about a factory car pulling to big of a wheelie you have a bad ass car !!!

 

[Marc W]

That run should have bested the factory 8.91 ET. Every metric is faster I think. Maybe the 1/8 is the diff.

The DA at Bakersfield was good (about +300 at that time) but the factory conditions were negative. Ron had more rear tire and lighter wheel/tire combination front and rear that gave him the sixty, but the negative DA was on the side of the factory car for mph. Also wind conditions can come into play. There was no wind at Bakersfield and unknown for the factory conditions. Variables.

 

[Unholy707]

Gainesville always has a bad headwind, my MPH is almost consistently 2mph lower there

Hmmm. OSW has always been .2 faster than Gainesville. Here we thought it was the prep?

 

[Unholy707]

My car runs the same between OSW and Gainesville, only difference is MPH. OSW prep is on point, but gets greasy faster

 

[Unholy707]

People need to do a track rental down here

 

[DavidKFla]

People need to do a track rental down here

They happen all the time. Call the track.

 

[Speedy!]

Thats why I keep asking what Ron's car weighs. That'll tell a lot.

I've heard tires, wheels, sway bar removed, one Kirky seat, bumper braces, washer bottle, etc. Curious how much can reasonably be saved.

 

[Marc W]

The track rental at Bakersfield we had complete control over prep. That is a huge difference with these radial tire cars. They would spray before every pass if we asked for it. There were only ten cars and all on M/T Radials. The race there the next day had hundreds of cars. Some running street tires, some front wheel drive imports and nowhere near the prep on demand that we had. A lot of comments on the traction issues they had. The downside to that super prep is breakage. Only two cars left that rental intact. Mine and the FullBlown Performance Challenger. That’s why (besides the cost) they don’t do that at a event where they have to spend all day cleaning the track. We basically set up the conditions where Ron could do it without going to Texas.

 

[Speedy!]

Are you saying new Demons had breakage or they're excluded from the two cars you mentioned?

 

[Marc W]

Are you saying new Demons had breakage or they're excluded from the two cars you mentioned?

You caught that 😬. I don’t want to say too much because I don’t know the details. Ron left with something needing to be looked at. Other than that…. I know nothing 🤐

 

[Speedy!]

Hopefully no big deal. I figure any weaknesses will be seen at LOD.

I have been surprised that no one seemed to follow the 1500 mile break in before hitting the track.

 

[Unholy707]

No, like hellcat owners

They happen all the time. Call the track.

 

[Unholy707]

The title of this thread should be congrats Ron FIRST 170 in the 8s

 

[DavidKFla]

No, like hellcat owners

Good luck with that. The last few "Mopar only" track rentals were complete disasters. Basically no prep with 0 cleanup. These were at OSW.

If you want a great rental, tag along with the pros testing their stuff. You'll get great track.

 

[Marc W]

Hopefully no big deal. I figure any weaknesses will be seen at LOD.

I have been surprised that no one seemed to follow the 1500 mile break in before hitting the track.

We don’t put 1500 miles on a full build race engine. There are some key things to do to get the desired ring seat, etc. But… 1500 miles isn’t necessary. Ron is very meticulous with his processes. He can show you everything from tire pressures to rpm for every pass. What he doesn’t do is baby that thing. He will squeeze every drop out of it. I don’t know if he actually broke or something concerning showed up that he needed to check out. I don’t want to start the haters blabbering.